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Cody
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Drum solos
      #42251 - Mon Apr 07 2008 02:57 PM (66.191.113.2)

Alright this kinda of wierd. I played a show the other day and well I was tightening all my stands a kid came up and said, "You better play a drum solo, you cant bring all those drums and not do a solo." I dont know if I'm the only one out there but I hate drum solos. At least 98% of them. And I hate playing them. Yeah I carry a lot of drums and cymbals but thats so I can have the perfect voice whenever I need it. When I played jazz(I sadly dont anymore) I loved solos and solo fills. I got a standing ovation from a crowd of 300 people for playing Channel One Suite. I just cant stand them any more. I've heard it all before. Even the greats play just the tom and bass explosion that fans just adore so much. I'm just saying that if theres a concert with a drum solo, I'm going to get a soda, anyone with me?

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Tea Bag
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Re: Drum solos [Re: Cody]
      #42260 - Mon Apr 07 2008 07:19 PM (70.54.50.199)

Ha ha - yeah, not much call for extended drum solos these days. If there is one it had better be pretty darn amazing and musical all at the same time. Neil Peart is one guy that can pull it off, but for most bands I see it's not a big draw, unless it's a drum clinic setting or a jazz club..

Anna Godda Davida Baby? I tried listening to it a few years ago and found myself scrambling for fast forward button..

Maybe a good question would be; what types of solos are there that keep people yelling for more?

Edited by Tea Bag (Mon Apr 07 2008 07:22 PM)


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Re: Drum solos [Re: Tea Bag]
      #42265 - Mon Apr 07 2008 08:08 PM (24.60.137.192)

i'm not into doing drum solos. but i do love them done by the masters.

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Re: Drum solos [Re: awfulldrummer]
      #42266 - Mon Apr 07 2008 08:10 PM (125.236.44.44)

I agree - I could watch "Toad" or "Moby Dick" many times and not get bored of them. However, Ginger and John did vary what was in their solos each time they were played.

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Re: Drum solos [Re: Alistair]
      #42269 - Mon Apr 07 2008 11:09 PM (76.18.20.232)

I love drum solos . . . if they're good solos. Drum solos are exciting. A good solo puts a smile on my face. I'm not much of a soloist myself, so I really admire those who can play musically interesting solos. Sure, I can blow chops, and sometimes it works musically, but sometimes it doesn't. Some players are just great natural soloists. If a solo isn't that good, I don't hate it as you do, I just don't like it as much.

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Re: Drum solos [Re: Ratamatatt]
      #42270 - Tue Apr 08 2008 12:09 AM (4.245.152.229)

There's "musical and non-musical" examples to be found in any aspect of musicmaking.

Musical and non-musical drum solos.
Musical and non-musical (pick any instrument) solos.
Musical and non-musical compositions.
Musical and non-musical musicals.

Even "less is more" (oh, how I hate that phrase) drumming can be unmusical, if it's not what the music calls for.

That having been said, it's cool not to be a fan of drum solos, and it's cool to be a fan of drum solos.

(Meanwhile, apparently I'll be out in the lobby, signing copies of "I'm OK, You're OK.")

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Re: Drum solos [Re: James Walker]
      #42271 - Tue Apr 08 2008 02:16 AM (70.101.216.207)

I've been a weekend warrior in the bar/club/casino/wedding scene for the past 10 years, and I've yet to be called upon to do a drum solo. The audiences that my band plays for want to dance; they don't really care if the drummer can solo, they just don't want him (me) to lose the beat. As a result, I haven't soloed in all that time, either in practice or at a gig, so I doubt I could even pull off a decent solo at this point.

As a drummer, I enjoy watching and listening to great drum solos - but my wife and most other non-drummers I know get bored after a minute or so of a solo, even if the drummer in question is named John Bonham, Ginger Baker, Buddy Rich, or any other of the great drummers.

But also as a drummer, I cringe for the guy behind the kit when I see an ill-prepared or inexperienced drummer try to pull off a musically interesting solo but fail miserably, and I have seen this happen at a couple of local hangouts. Once I actually saw an audience turn on a drummer and start booing when his solo failed to ignite any sparks. That was brutal.

My experience: drum solos are better left to the pros on the big stages, or settings such as clinics where they're both expected and appreciated by the drummers in the crowd.


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777Drum
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Re: Drum solos [Re: Foursticks]
      #42272 - Tue Apr 08 2008 06:36 AM (70.244.36.132)

I always enjoy hearing drum and percussion solos. My favorite music areas are jazz and jazz fusion. I can't remember hearing any soloing I could call bad or poorly done. I can see where your average listener would not like them or be interested.

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Pywacket
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Re: Drum solos [Re: Tea Bag]
      #42277 - Tue Apr 08 2008 04:56 PM (88.106.244.16)

Maybe a good question would be; what types of solos are there that keep people yelling for more?




Short and sweet.

After all "LESS IS MORE" as they say.

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Tea Bag
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Re: Drum solos [Re: Pywacket]
      #42282 - Tue Apr 08 2008 09:38 PM (70.51.245.172)

Now that you mention it - that's true! Some of the most memorable solos I've heard were short; like lasting around 10 seconds. Any longer and it gives people time to get up and go out for a smoke.

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