Ratamatatt
(Tiger Talk Pro)
Mon Dec 29 2003 11:24 PM
65.80.22.183
Re: Moeller vs Gladstone ?

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Originally posted by bear45:
Is there any difference between the Billy Glastone method and the Sanford Moeller method?

In a nutshell, the Gladstone method maximizes the natural rebound of the stick so that you can play faster and longer and remain relaxed. There is no upstroke, only downstrokes. You basically throw the stick down on the drumhead while keeping the fingers, hand and wrist so relaxed that the rebound bounces the stick back up which pulls the hand up. It takes some practice at slow tempos to learn it correctly. Tiger Bill's "building monster chops" lessons tell you everything you need to know.

The Moeller method is a whipping action that involves both a downstroke and an upstroke OF THE HAND. The point is to generate multiple stick strokes with a single hand stroke. Again it takes practice to get the fingers, hands and wrists to remain relaxed enough to allow multiple stick strokes.

Hint: Almost all drummers use the Moeller method while playing a grove on the high hats even if they don't realize it. You whip the stick down on the high hat striking the edge of the hats with the shoulder of the stick - that's a downstroke with the hand and the stick. Then while your hand is on the upstroke you let your wrist flop down so that the tip of the stick comes down and hits the top hat while the hand is on the upstroke. That's two stick strokes with a single hand stroke. You can play 3, 4 or more stick stokes with a single hand stroke.

From what I've seen, the Moeller method is most useful as an accenting technique. Check out Jim Chapin's video "Speed, Power, Control & Endurance."

I think the Gladstone and Moeller methods work perfectly together. Picture playing a fast single stroke roll using the Gladstone "rebound" technique. Then suppose you want to play some accents. For each accented note, the hand comes up (with the wrist totally limp and the stick pointing down) and then whips the stick down onto the drumhead.

Hope this was helpful.



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