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Ratamatatt
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Website Dedicated to Moeller Method
      #1372 - Fri Feb 24 2006 09:32 AM (68.235.146.135)

I posted this link on another thread but it didn't get much traction.

Here is a link to a very comprehensive lesson on the Moeller method. BE SURE TO READ THROUGH THE ENTIRE SITE AND WATCH ALL THE VIDEO CLIPS. At the end, there is a link to additional material applying the method to drumset (some of which is duplicative), but is still worthwhile.

The first thing you'll notice is the odd grip used in the "original" Moeller method which, apparently, civil war drummers adapted from European military drummers. The right hand grip is similar to the grip you would use on a motorcycle throttle. [Eek!] You'll also notice that the Moeller method includes not only the "whip" idea, but also the "rebound" idea involved in the Gladstone method.

Very interestingly, about 1/2 way through, you'll find a video clip demonstrating finger technique with the Moeller method. You're in for a VERY interesting surprise with this one. Enjoy!

http://www.digbydoodle.com/Moeller/vintage.htm


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Re: Website Dedicated to Moeller Method
      #1373 - Fri Feb 24 2006 10:32 AM (206.202.64.46)

Wow! What a great site - I think this is what a lot of people are looking for.

Thanks Ratamatatt


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Re: Website Dedicated to Moeller Method
      #1374 - Fri Feb 24 2006 11:56 AM (81.235.145.90)

LOL Rata... How and Where did you find it?? It's awesome ...Good God:=))

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DomNJOzz
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Re: Website Dedicated to Moeller Method
      #1375 - Fri Feb 24 2006 01:18 PM (12.39.242.130)

Very interesting.

I like the details.

The owner of that site is actually very friendly and answered questions I had.


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LambChops
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Re: Website Dedicated to Moeller Method
      #1376 - Fri Feb 24 2006 05:44 PM (69.231.211.173)

Ditto^

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Re: Website Dedicated to Moeller Method
      #1377 - Fri Feb 24 2006 06:29 PM (67.184.236.187)

I went through it last night...thanks for sharing the info.

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Ratamatatt
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Re: Website Dedicated to Moeller Method
      #1378 - Fri Feb 24 2006 07:53 PM (68.235.146.135)

Did anyone notice the video clip with the finger technique this guy used, with the index fingers of his left AND right hand? That just blew me away.

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Re: Website Dedicated to Moeller Method
      #1379 - Sat Feb 25 2006 02:08 AM (81.235.145.90)

yep me 2..lol

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Re: Website Dedicated to Moeller Method
      #1380 - Sat Feb 25 2006 04:28 AM (68.103.121.165)

I really don't know what to think about that. Different.

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LambChops
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Re: Website Dedicated to Moeller Method
      #1381 - Sat Feb 25 2006 09:16 PM (64.132.0.250)

Tony Williams used the pinky finger fulcrum. He said thats were he got his power from.

The finger control is what got me on the video clips. I keep my elbows out and thumbs up for finger control. The middle, ring and pinky are in control and my index is the fulcrum. I do, however, use the pinky a little more when I use wrist after reading a Tony Williams article. I have gotten more power from my wrist stroke because of that.


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