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jesuslovesyou
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Re: Website Dedicated to Moeller Method
      #1382 - Mon Feb 27 2006 01:37 AM (210.18.130.252)

Whoa! That guy has some serious skills. I am going to play like him from now on. We have been doing it wrong this whole time(at least I have)! Now I know why Jim Chapin's right hand grip was weird to me in the clips of him with Dom Famularo.

So interesting.


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Ratamatatt
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Re: Website Dedicated to Moeller Method
      #1383 - Mon Feb 27 2006 05:43 AM (68.235.146.135)

quote:
Originally posted by jesuslovesyou:
Whoa! That guy has some serious skills. I am going to play like him from now on. We have been doing it wrong this whole time(at least I have)! Now I know why Jim Chapin's right hand grip was weird to me in the clips of him with Dom Famularo.

So interesting.

Just keep an open mind. This style of drumming is best for hard hitting, but, probably not the best for softer (ie: acoustic) drumming. Chapin himself states that you should be open to using different methods for different applications.

BTW, Chapin's right hand grip is also informed by an old time rudimental drummer named J. Burns Moore who trained his students to curve their wrists so that the back of the hand faced forward when playing.


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Re: Website Dedicated to Moeller Method
      #1384 - Mon Feb 27 2006 11:46 AM (69.234.3.178)

The best teachers advovate to experiment and have more than one way to play. Like Rata. said, That's a good way for solid hitting, not softer stuff. Finger control and wrist work good on softer applications.

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roger strange
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Re: Website Dedicated to Moeller Method
      #1385 - Tue Feb 28 2006 04:58 PM (24.222.76.127)

This is a monster site.As to modifying the stuff for quieter playing. The cat talks about Morello when it comes to finger technique which pretty well says it all. You can see the cat's right hand working off the middle and the back of the hand and check out just how accurately he addresses the fulcrum issue in the text stating that the longer the fulcrum the less stick shock. For those who use matched grip just concentrate on how he uses the right hand and especially when working on the second section called Moeller 2 which addresses modification for kit work. If you have seen Jim work over a drum kit you see that right away. Once you have digested all that go watch how Tommy Cambell handles the Moeller type stuff with full modern modified Moeller and then drop back to that other superb master Joe Morello. There's a VCR tape out there called classic Jazz drummers published by Hudson Music with all the old masters playing solos. Both Rich and Joe are using matched grip. Joe's is on his solo on Take 5.
You can also see matched modified Moeller in action with Gadd on a lot of his work with Clapton. It's stuff anyone should really get into if they want to keep playing for many decades because all that original snare drum Moeller is the basis for any good stick handling
whether you are using any of the current grips on the go. Very important to stretch out those hands on the sticks and use the fore-fingers more as springs.
I immediately downloaded all the clips and burnt them to CD so that I could run a check on my own technique and tune myself up right away.


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