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holten
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I'm afraid our country is goin ti hell in a hand basket , part 2
      #21272 - Wed May 24 2006 01:27 AM (205.188.117.6)

its been a wile sence anything was posted on the original thread, thought id try to bring it back.

either every has been said or we forgot about it. but times are changing and so are some views.

mine are pretty much the same, how bout you?


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Re: I'm afraid our country is goin ti hell in a hand basket , part 2
      #21273 - Sat May 27 2006 04:18 PM (68.235.146.135)

The Bush family, with the full cooperation of the GOP (read: grand ol' pimps, and btw, the dems are only about 1/2 better), have converted the most successful constitutional democracy in history into a fascist, police state.

Here's an enlightening quote from the founder of fascism: "Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini

Gee, doesn't that sound like exactly what's happening to America? It started with Ronald "the brain stem" Reagan's deregulation movement, and Daddy Bush picked up from there, and Clinton continued the tradition. Now the Chimp-in-Chief just has to consolidate what's left of the government and give it away to private contractors (in exchange for hefty kickbacks to the Bush family, or course), whose loyalty is to profits, not to America.

The most pathetic thing of all are those who voted for, support, and trust the Chimp-in-Chief because they think he's a christian. These people are singularly the biggest suckers in human history.

Go rent the movie "Rollerball." That's where the world is headed.


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Re: I'm afraid our country is goin ti hell in a hand basket , part 2
      #21274 - Sun May 28 2006 03:31 AM (68.103.121.165)

Well, what are we going to do about it.

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Re: I'm afraid our country is goin ti hell in a hand basket , part 2
      #21275 - Sun May 28 2006 04:23 AM (74.225.37.29)

It's easy to say vote democrat so there's a chance the Jackanapes will be impeached and removed from office. But, there's a little problem with that - black box voting aka Diebold, the electronic, paperless voting machine maker who also counts the votes, whose CEO guaranteed a Bush victory in 2004. Further, assuming the votes were being counted accurately (as if), and dems gained a majority in congress, there are still enough corrupt dems in this congress who will combine with the almost universally corrupt GOPer's to defeat any articles of impeachment.

It's not a pretty picture. It's going to take 20+ years to take our government back from big business. It may take violence, perhaps revolution, if it's going to happen.


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Re: I'm afraid our country is goin ti hell in a hand basket , part 2
      #21276 - Sun May 28 2006 11:57 PM (70.240.211.113)

it's scary, but i think we should have our rights back. the goverment thinks we can be supressed with SUV's, plasma screen-tv's, and material **** like that.

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Re: I'm afraid our country is goin ti hell in a hand basket , part 2
      #21277 - Wed May 31 2006 05:16 AM (75.11.52.7)

There are plenty of posts by democrats that do nothing but point out problems and trash talk republicans. Then I read more and found postings by republicans doing the exact same thing to the democrats. Of course this perspective does not generalize ALL democrats or ALL republicans
It's like listening to a bunch of 4 year olds argue over who has the cooler lunch box. It would be really nice to see postings that facillitate arguments in a legitimate manner (not name calling and generalizing)rather than fallacious arguments.


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Re: I'm afraid our country is goin ti hell in a hand basket , part 2
      #21278 - Wed May 31 2006 10:28 PM (68.235.146.135)

Except for one problem, the Republicans just won't do that. In the past 20 years Republicans have raised trash talking and partisanship to unprecidented levels and there's no end in site. They own the main stream media and they've been trash talking 24/7/365 for 20 years now, and and it's been working for them, brainwashing the public into voting against their own best interest.

In addition to that, the Republicans in power have raised corporate corruption to unprecidented levels. They have literally sold the U.S. government to giant corporations. No federal agency charged with regulating business and protecting the public is independent anymore. They are all headed and controlled by corporate shills and loyalists.

When industry wants a new law, their lawyers write it and pay off republican lawmakers to pass it.

The most heinous crime of the GOP, in it's crusade to privatize everything, has been to privatize the voting process. Now, our votes are collected and tabulated by private corporations (primarily Deibold who's CEO guaranteed a Bush victory) who paid republican lawmakers to buy their black box/no paper trail voting machines, and then pay them to count the votes for which there is no paper trail or other way to verify the accuracy of the tabulation. THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF THE END OF DEMOCRACY IN AMERICA. PLAIN AND SIMPLE. AND THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS 100% AT FAULT FOR IT.

So, for you to pretend that both sides are somehow equally at falt is an utter misrepresentation.


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Re: I'm afraid our country is goin ti hell in a hand basket , part 2
      #21279 - Wed May 31 2006 11:19 PM (206.202.72.28)

I'm pretending Ratamatatt - you have your perception and I have mine

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Re: I'm afraid our country is goin ti hell in a hand basket , part 2
      #21280 - Wed May 31 2006 11:23 PM (206.202.72.28)

That was supposed to say "I'm not pretending"

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Re: I'm afraid our country is goin ti hell in a hand basket , part 2
      #21281 - Thu Jun 01 2006 02:00 AM (152.163.100.6)

quote:
The Bush family, with the full cooperation of the GOP (read: grand ol' pimps, and btw, the dems are only about 1/2 better), have converted the most successful constitutional democracy in history into a fascist, police state.

Here's an enlightening quote from the founder of fascism: "Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini

Gee, doesn't that sound like exactly what's happening to America? It started with Ronald "the brain stem" Reagan's deregulation movement, and Daddy Bush picked up from there, and Clinton continued the tradition. Now the Chimp-in-Chief just has to consolidate what's left of the government and give it away to private contractors (in exchange for hefty kickbacks to the Bush family, or course), whose loyalty is to profits, not to America.

The most pathetic thing of all are those who voted for, support, and trust the Chimp-in-Chief because they think he's a christian. These people are singularly the biggest suckers in human history.

Go rent the movie "Rollerball." That's where the world is headed.
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It's easy to say vote democrat so there's a chance the Jackanapes will be impeached and removed from office. But, there's a little problem with that - black box voting aka Diebold, the electronic, paperless voting machine maker who also counts the votes, whose CEO guaranteed a Bush victory in 2004. Further, assuming the votes were being counted accurately (as if), and dems gained a majority in congress, there are still enough corrupt dems in this congress who will combine with the almost universally corrupt GOPer's to defeat any articles of impeachment.

It's not a pretty picture. It's going to take 20+ years to take our government back from big business. It may take violence, perhaps revolution, if it's going to happen.
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Except for one problem, the Republicans just won't do that. In the past 20 years Republicans have raised trash talking and partisanship to unprecidented levels and there's no end in site. They own the main stream media and they've been trash talking 24/7/365 for 20 years now, and and it's been working for them, brainwashing the public into voting against their own best interest.

In addition to that, the Republicans in power have raised corporate corruption to unprecidented levels. They have literally sold the U.S. government to giant corporations. No federal agency charged with regulating business and protecting the public is independent anymore. They are all headed and controlled by corporate shills and loyalists.

When industry wants a new law, their lawyers write it and pay off republican lawmakers to pass it.

The most heinous crime of the GOP, in it's crusade to privatize everything, has been to privatize the voting process. Now, our votes are collected and tabulated by private corporations (primarily Deibold who's CEO guaranteed a Bush victory) who paid republican lawmakers to buy their black box/no paper trail voting machines, and then pay them to count the votes for which there is no paper trail or other way to verify the accuracy of the tabulation. THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF THE END OF DEMOCRACY IN AMERICA. PLAIN AND SIMPLE. AND THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS 100% AT FAULT FOR IT.

So, for you to pretend that both sides are somehow equally at falt is an utter misrepresentation.


how should i put this? oh! heres a way,
those were the stupidest things iv ever heared.

you whant to add in some da vinci code lies wile your at it?


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