Ratamatatt
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Here's what we have to look forward to
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.2d463dc1ea6baf7651f3f5c33b7f3824.a51&show_article=1
Breitbart? The scumpublican who hired O'keefe and Giles to make a fraudulent video pretending to be a pimp and whore going to Acorn for advice. Now there's a reliable source for you! Breitbart is a hot, steaming pile of human excriment who needs someone to put a hole in his fat mouth!
As for what we have to look forward to, the world wide depression is, once again, the result of right wing, corporatist, fascism, beginning with the puppet pimp Ronald Reagan. The fraud of free market capitalism has be laid bare for the world to see, that is, those not too brainwashed to see. It took 30 years of corporatist fascism to destroy the world economy, it will take 30 years to undo the damage! 1 down, 29 to go! Now, it's time for the billionaire bankers to pay their fair share in taxes, balance the budget and give the middle class a break.
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Alistair
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Sorry to break the flow, as it were. I was wondering why Americans seem so opposed to the healthcare plan suggested by el Presidente? Surely free/subsidised healthcare would be a blessing for those too poor to afford insurance?
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777Drum
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Breitbart? The scumpublican who hired O'keefe and Giles to make a fraudulent video pretending to be a pimp and whore going to Acorn for advice. Now there's a reliable source for you! Breitbart is a hot, steaming pile of human excriment who needs someone to put a hole in his fat mouth!
As for what we have to look forward to, the world wide depression is, once again, the result of right wing, corporatist, fascism, beginning with the puppet pimp Ronald Reagan. The fraud of free market capitalism has be laid bare for the world to see, that is, those not too brainwashed to see. It took 30 years of corporatist fascism to destroy the world economy, it will take 30 years to undo the damage! 1 down, 29 to go! Now, it's time for the billionaire bankers to pay their fair share in taxes, balance the budget and give the middle class a break.
Both parties are to blame, you give bawny fwank, cwis dod a pass? That's funny...can you say fannie may freedy mac...crooked as the day is long....frank and dodd are their biggest cheer leaders... hey look more about how socialism doesn't work and what it leads to on your rag msnbc! http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35685028/ns/business-world_business/
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777Drum
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Sorry to break the flow, as it were. I was wondering why Americans seem so opposed to the healthcare plan suggested by el Presidente? Surely free/subsidised healthcare would be a blessing for those too poor to afford insurance?
Because the U.S. is broke for one thing. Health care is not a right...it is a service...why should it be free...do you work for free? Socialized medicine doesn't work. Ask the canadians. They draw lottery numbers to see who even gets an appointment with a doctor. a good example of how it financially doesn't work is medicare and medicade...totally broke. Now the socialists here want to expand the same thing that doesn't work to millions more. Do the math, count the doctors...there's no money etc.. Health care is a service and should not become an entitlement. It's never free anyway....big guv just bleeds the people for more taxes.
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777Drum
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Wow. Socialized medicine in the U.K. What a great thing.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...-beg-water.html
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Alistair
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I know it's never free - taxes pay for a lot of things, we seem to be taxed on about 30% of our income in NZ, but doctor's visits only cost $15, and for children it's free. Of course the doctors' salaries are paid for by the government, no-one would work for free! Our Ambulance service is basically a charity, but there is only one type and they serve their communities, regardless of insurance. The other services (fire/police) are government funded.
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Ratamatatt
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Both parties are to blame, you give bawny fwank, cwis dod a pass? That's funny...can you say fannie may freedy mac...crooked as the day is long....frank and dodd are their biggest cheer leaders... hey look more about how socialism doesn't work and what it leads to on your rag msnbc! http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35685028/ns/business-world_business/
Again, you have no idea what you're talking about. NONE! No, both parties are not to blame. The fascist, corporatocracy is to blame. And the the GOP is a wholly owned subsidiary of the corporatocracy. Did you see Barney Frank or Chris Dodd's signature on the Gramm, Leach, Blyley Act? That was the single most important factor in the banking collapse. But, being a Fox Noise junky, you wouldn't know anything about that. BTW, NBC is owned by the far right wing, fascist General Electric. Ask Phil Dohanue or James Grodin about GE. Just because MSNBC has 2 liberals on it doesn't make it a liberal network. It's still a corporatist, fascist, MSM, network, like ABC, CBS, FOX, CNN, et al.
As for FNMA and FDMC, again, you have no idea what you're talking about. They are mortgage securitizing entities. (Since you probably don't know what that means, look it up). They don't promulgate (look that up too), laws or regulations, they don't originate loans. They didn't deregulate the mortgage market, they didn't defraud mortgagors.
The world wide economic collapse was due, IN IT'S ENTIRETY on corporatist, fascist, republican deregulation beginning with the brain dead, puppet pimp, Ronald "The Brain Stem" Reagan and his idiotic "trickle down economic" incompetence. Does any bipedal organism have any doubt that Reagan was suffering from Alzheimers during his presidency? No surprise that he was a hero to constupidives.
Anyone with two neurons between their ears to rub together, which excludes all conservatives, knows that "free market capitalism" works only for the corporatocracy. The rest of the world gets screwed. History has proven that there are no exceptions, it happens every time.
"Those who cannot remember the past are doomed to repeat it." -- George Santayana
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Ratamatatt
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Sorry to break the flow, as it were. I was wondering why Americans seem so opposed to the healthcare plan suggested by el Presidente? Surely free/subsidised healthcare would be a blessing for those too poor to afford insurance?
Because the U.S. is broke for one thing. Health care is not a right...it is a service...why should it be free...do you work for free? Socialized medicine doesn't work. Ask the canadians. They draw lottery numbers to see who even gets an appointment with a doctor. a good example of how it financially doesn't work is medicare and medicade...totally broke. Now the socialists here want to expand the same thing that doesn't work to millions more. Do the math, count the doctors...there's no money etc.. Health care is a service and should not become an entitlement. It's never free anyway....big guv just bleeds the people for more taxes.
Again, you have no idea what you're talking about. One of the reasons that the government is in such a deficit position is because THE COST OF MEDICINE AND MEDICAL INSURANCE IS TOO DAMN HIGH! America is being robbed, blackmailed by the medical and medical insurance industries.
The tired, idiotic, corporatist squawking point parroted by brainless conservative morons - that medicine isn't a right, is IRRELEVANT. Who cares if it's a right or not? The point is that AMERICANS HAVE AN ABSOLUTE RIGHT TO COLLECTIVELY CREATE A MEDICAL SYSTEM THAT DELIVERS SAFER AND MORE EFFECTIVE MEDICAL CARE AT A REASONABLE PRICE, YOU DUMBASS! That whole premise scares the s--t out of the corporatist scum and their shitpublican enablers.
Imagine, the complete removal of the wretched, stinking, stench of business from medical care. It's like a breath of fresh air.
The rest of the industrialized world - every single industrialized country but the U.S. - has already proven WITH ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY that socilized medical insurance (ie: Canada), and socilized medicine (ie: England), deliver safer and more effective medicine, at a much lower cost, than profit driven Wall Street Care. PERIOD!
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777Drum
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Nice socialist talking points! You're the dumbass. The country is broke fool. Do you understand that? Do you get it? There's no money. Oh, wait lets get it from the rich and evil corporations....you're a idiot. An Obama stool grooming idiot.
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777Drum
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Okay..this is my last post. My reply is just to read what you wrote. Sorry, you're just too stupid to attempt to converse with. Jesus..all democrats good all repubs evil...you're such a fool...a useful idiot.
Again, you have no idea what you're talking about. NONE! No, both parties are not to blame. The fascist, corporatocracy is to blame. And the the GOP is a wholly owned subsidiary of the corporatocracy. Did you see Barney Frank or Chris Dodd's signature on the Gramm, Leach, Blyley Act? That was the single most important factor in the banking collapse. But, being a Fox Noise junky, you wouldn't know anything about that. BTW, NBC is owned by the far right wing, fascist General Electric. Ask Phil Dohanue or James Grodin about GE. Just because MSNBC has 2 liberals on it doesn't make it a liberal network. It's still a corporatist, fascist, MSM, network, like ABC, CBS, FOX, CNN, et al.
As for FNMA and FDMC, again, you have no idea what you're talking about. They are mortgage securitizing entities. (Since you probably don't know what that means, look it up). They don't promulgate (look that up too), laws or regulations, they don't originate loans. They didn't deregulate the mortgage market, they didn't defraud mortgagors.
The world wide economic collapse was due, IN IT'S ENTIRETY on corporatist, fascist, republican deregulation beginning with the brain dead, puppet pimp, Ronald "The Brain Stem" Reagan and his idiotic "trickle down economic" incompetence. Does any bipedal organism have any doubt that Reagan was suffering from Alzheimers during his presidency? No surprise that he was a hero to constupidives.
Anyone with two neurons between their ears to rub together, which excludes all conservatives, knows that "free market capitalism" works only for the corporatocracy. The rest of the world gets screwed. History has proven that there are no exceptions, it happens every time.
"Those who cannot remember the past are doomed to repeat it." -- George Santayana
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