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tainteddrummer
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ballistic bass drumming video
      #24043 - Tue Dec 31 2002 01:09 PM (216.6.160.3)

i just got the ballistic bass drumming video yesterday.. it was good/ at parts
the first 1/2 hour was basically him just telling u all the stuff that if u buy it it'll make u play better which was pretty annoying.
some of the things him and his annoyingly gay sounding voice said make u play better r axis sonic hammersand an axis drive shaft bc it has zero backlash. when he finally got to teaching stuff it got better.
first he taught how 2 adjust ur pedals. make the foot board angle aroung 35- 45 degrees from the ground and the braters 35-45 degrees from the head.
then it said the height u should keep ur beaters and the tensioning on ur heads.
then he FINALLY got into the WHIP MOTION. which is just heel toe done in a whipping motion instead of continuously "tap dancing" i already had this figured out i think 2 weeks ago b4 i even got the vid.. (c my previous thread "bass drum rolls")
it was a pretty non entertaing movie over all and waY 2 overpriced but it does teach some useful stuff. so if u called in an order for the free audio cassette wait 4 a few months for them 2 keep sending u mail telling u 2 buy it and eventually if u keep ignoring it the price should eventually go down from $50 to $30 so have patience.
ENDLESS BORING REVIEW DONE.


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drumsonly2002
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Reged: Oct 07 2002
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Re: ballistic bass drumming video
      #24044 - Wed Jan 01 2003 12:09 AM (64.5.195.110)

To be honest I really enjoyed your review. You posted a lot on concise information in a brief review. I appreciate the extra details. For example, pedal recommendation, information about the height of floorboards, and angle of beaters. Could you mention the recommended spring tension and drum head tension also please? Personally I enjoyed the review as it answered a lot of questions about the finer details one seldom reads about with regards to bass drum technique.

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tainteddrummer
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Re: ballistic bass drumming video
      #24045 - Wed Jan 01 2003 01:25 PM (216.6.162.83)

recommended head tension is medium-tight and spring tension, he said start out w/ it completly cranked up then as u get used 2 it, lower it to medium or less.

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RIDDIM
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Loc: MD
Re: ballistic bass drumming video
      #24046 - Tue Feb 04 2003 12:39 AM (66.153.109.86)

His comments about the Axis universal (no slack) and the Sonic Hammer Beaters are, his delivery aside, right on the money.

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sticksforbrains
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Reged: Mar 15 2003
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Re: ballistic bass drumming video
      #24047 - Mon Apr 07 2003 06:43 PM (208.171.243.69)

Dude, thanks for getting me the tape. The whip motion is very useful, but all of the time spent telling us what to buy wasn't. This tape is very helpful and is a good buy.

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wildrick
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Re: ballistic bass drumming video
      #24048 - Fri May 16 2003 12:14 AM (155.219.199.136)

I too "got Ballistic" last year. The seemingly endless product commercials certainly do get a bit old after a while, but I'm REALLY glad he turned me on to the Universal drive shaft. I've tried the Sonic Hammers and wasn't too hyped with the results, but nothing works for EVERYBODY, right? I have also continued to receive Stronsick's monthly lesson material and gotten some GREAT ideas for applications in my own playing. I would LOVE to start studying with a good teacher again, but my hectic and irratic schedule just doesn't allow it. The monthly "Ballistic" packages are something that nicely fills the void!

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tainteddrummer
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Re: ballistic bass drumming video
      #24049 - Fri May 16 2003 07:52 PM (216.6.161.125)

wildrick.. is the axis drive shaft really as amazing as joe says it is? my pedal is starting to suck majorly and i can't afford an expensive double pedal (like cobras or 5,000s) and with the drive shaft only costing $130(i think) it would be much cheaper.. any info on it would be cool

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wildrick
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Re: ballistic bass drumming video
      #24050 - Fri May 23 2003 01:15 PM (63.156.76.9)

The Axis drive shaft is really great. I'm using it myself on my Sonor Giant Step.

The positioning options are great: I'm not stuck having to line up a flat spot any more, so my footboard is right where I want it. Any energy I put into my footboard goes directly to my beater; no extra "play".

If your pedal is dying out, the FIRST thing I would do is change the springs on it. After that, give the Axis drive shaft a try. Best bet might be to get to an Axis dealer and check one out in person before spending the cash. It's definitely cheaper than buying a new pedal setup, but $130 is STILL $130, right?

Let me know how it's going!


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spider9
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Reged: Aug 11 2004
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Re: ballistic bass drumming video
      #24051 - Wed Aug 11 2004 05:35 PM (205.188.116.142)

sorry for my ignorance, but I'm a very new drummer and I'm struggling with double bass speed of any sort. I'm very coordinated but can't figure out how to play fast single rolls. Does it really come down to hours of repetition or are there any tricks/insight you can offer.

As for the whip method,is it right toe left toe then right heel left heel, or right toe, right heel, left toe, left heel.


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mick
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Reged: Jan 15 2005
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Loc: australia
Re: ballistic bass drumming video
      #24052 - Wed Jan 19 2005 01:42 AM (203.48.249.145)

I to have been harrased by ballistic joe for about a week now trying to sell me all his vids and stuff and Iam really thankfull for the review that you have written about this guy.
Tell me one thing, what length did he say to keep the beaters out of the kick pedal?
just curious, the best DVD to get on double kick techq Ive found is Thomas Langs creative control its a 5.5hour dvd and theres heaps in it.
I took a master class and saw him at the drum festival in sydney Australia last year, this guy is four limb indepnceance like your've never seen a 4 limb thashing machine.
the other book Ive been put on to by a good friend of mine whos a great session drummer here in oz said try encyclopaedia of double bass drumming by bobby rondenelli and Michael lauren he uses this and reckons its the way to go for him


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