keep_wit_it
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Reged: Aug 28 2005
Posts: 1468
Loc: CA
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I've been working out of this book for about a month now. When I saw the examples on his free online lessons, I new the book was different than all the other double bass books.
The firt section is full of 88 excersises that WILL challange you at any level. In one month, my feet feel more coordinated than ever. This section alone has given me so much control and speed has definitly followed.
The next section coordinates the hands with the feet with I found is essential for playing comfortably and relaxed.
The next section has you working different patterns between the hands and the feet. This one is a killer. I've only got so far in this chapter. It is hard, but definetly WORTH the practice effort.
Theres 8th note triplet and 16th note triplet exersises and so much much more in this book.
We've all heard in advertisements that theres a secret weapon. This book has shed some light on that. I've went from playing 180 bpm (after 20 seconds I'd burn out) to playing 190 bpm for 1 minute. Thank you Tiger. Everyone looking to increase your independence and double bass ( theres no either or. Practicing his excersises on your second bass pedal AND hi hat will increase both to a whole new level.) This book is for you.
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absense
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Reged: May 15 2005
Posts: 260
Loc: Hong Kong
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Thanks for the review. Could you tell me if this book would be good as a foundation for double bass drumming for beginners? Also, would you say that this book should not be a drummer's first book but something they'd use if they wanted to start specializing at double bass drumming.
I've got Joe Franco's double bass drumming book and I did try some of the exercises there when I first stated playing drums and they really were fun and helped...do you happen to have that book? If so, how does the tiger's book compare?
Ahhh I can only go 140 (pedalling 16th notes) for a minute ![[Frown]](/ubbthreads/images/icons/frown.gif) anything higher and I burn out in 10 seconds...
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keep_wit_it
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Reged: Aug 28 2005
Posts: 1468
Loc: CA
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I've used Joe Franco's book before. Tiger Bills book is completely different.
To answer your question, I think anyone at any level could use this book. The first chapter are exersises you could play either both bass drums(or double bass pedals like I have) or hi hat and bass drum. It builds independence between your feet(like a pair of hands.)
Most people practice double bass just rlrlrlrl or rlrlrl which is good to build up your single strokes. With the Tigers book, your building abilities to play more with the pedals. Once you get the coordination between your feet to play other patterns and flams with the feet, rlrlrl will seem easy. They're more than just exersises.
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absense
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Reged: May 15 2005
Posts: 260
Loc: Hong Kong
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mmm... I think tiger's book sounds like a worthy investment for me in the future.. I'm still building my foundation around the kit ![[Smile]](/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif)
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keep_wit_it
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Reged: Aug 28 2005
Posts: 1468
Loc: CA
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sounds good.
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Mouse
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Reged: Apr 08 2002
Posts: 1814
Loc: Southland New Zealand
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Next to Stones stick control, Double drumming is a must for any serious drummer. Easy to follow and covers a lot of ground. Suited to any beginner to professional. IMO value for money.
I don't play double kick but the exercises have helped me get a good balance and use my lazy left foot more.10/10
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Randall
Tiger Talk Trainee
Reged: Mar 06 2005
Posts: 3
Loc: Texas
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I have four limbs. For years I played with only 3. I wanted to develope into a four limb player. Using Stone's stick control and Bill's double bass drumming, I am becoming a 4 limb player. Independence is the key. Understanding what my limbs are doing in the exercise is as important as finding myself doing them. Now, I can improve on what was written and incorporate, as the rhythym permits, my own twist. Thanks to the predecessors before me.
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DomNJOzz
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Reged: Nov 23 2002
Posts: 263
Loc: New Jersey
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This book is freakin hard! But it's worth the effort. You really get a feeling of accomplishment when you play through the exercises correctly.
My feet have improved greatly. I still have a way to go. I practice heel down and it helps my heel up playing as well. It helps get rid of that "ankle and shin burnout" that I used to get after heel down playing.
It has also helped my music reading.
It's a great book to recommend to anyone, no matter what style of music they play.
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DannyMeazell
Tiger Talk Trainee
Reged: May 01 2006
Posts: 6
Loc: Tyler, Texas USA
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Does this book do heel toe? I have a size 9 and though my feet aren't that big I still have trouble doing heel toe. I am going to order a pair of Axis-A long boards with heavy springs to eliminate that sixe and leangth problem.
Danny Meazell
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Flam Master Flash
Tiger Talk Pro
Reged: Nov 17 2005
Posts: 323
Loc: France
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Well, I've really put in a lot of time on this book for just over one year now. Can't say that I've made the headlong progress that Lambchops made in his one month of study, but I am stoked to have finished every excercise in the book (at a very slow tempo). I am currently following Tiger's advice at playing everything at a controlled, comfortable tempo, only occasionally pushing beyond the comfort zone (to push my speed progress). Slowly, but surely, I'm getting faster, but most importantly, I'm developing an independance and solid foundation that I really needed. At the rate I'm going, it'll be awhile before I get to 190 b.p.m (I play heels down), but when I do, I'll have the stamina and coodination to play along with my hands. For me, this book is as important as Stick Control, and I highly recommend it!
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