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Stuart
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Deagan Glockenspiel
      #37090 - Wed Nov 29 2006 07:10 PM (147.10.120.247)

I recently picked some old trap drums, included was a Deagan Model 1512 Glockenspiel(?)
Still in it's original box, and seems to be in very good condition other than the rubber that sits beneath each bar.
The thing weighs a ton.
Would anyone have any information on these? Are they common, good quality??
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L Lawless
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Re: Deagan Glockenspiel [Re: Stuart]
      #37103 - Sat Dec 02 2006 12:15 AM (67.76.54.220)

Hi, Stuart -

I don't know specifically the 1512 model. Is it in a wooden box that folds in half? That's what mine are like, and mine date from around 1930.

The J.C. Deagan company was famous for their quality instruments. Now that the company has been out of business for a while, the instruments, depending on condition, are collector's items. Still great performance quality, also.

Here is a link to some info on the company:
http://www.richsamuels.com/nbcmm/deagan/index.html

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Stuart
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Re: Deagan Glockenspiel [Re: L Lawless]
      #37106 - Sat Dec 02 2006 10:15 AM (147.10.120.247)

Thanks for the reply.
Yes a wooden box that folds in half and they look as if they could come from ther 30'2 or there abouts. That sort of date would match some in the cymbals and the style of the drum kits
. To my untrained ear they have amazing clarity.

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Re: Deagan Glockenspiel [Re: Stuart]
      #37111 - Sat Dec 02 2006 07:59 PM (147.10.120.247)

Here's a few pics;

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v207/stu_china/Glock.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v207/stu_china/Model1512.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v207/stu_china/Picture031.jpg

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Re: Deagan Glockenspiel [Re: Stuart]
      #37112 - Sun Dec 03 2006 03:47 AM (67.76.54.220)

Yes, that's what mine look like, although your case is in better shape. The sound should be excellent.
Don't know what you want to do with them, there are several companies in the US that will make new modern cases for them, remount the bars in which case you will have a professional quality instrument. Not sure what the market for them is.
Gilberto Selma in Chicago is the Deagan authority, he used to work for Deagan, then bought out the old parts and has had his own company restoring Deagans. I have heard he has retired and closed his business, though.

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Re: Deagan Glockenspiel [Re: L Lawless]
      #37113 - Sun Dec 03 2006 04:09 AM (4.245.227.148)

I don't know the status of Gilberto or Century Mallet, but here's the Century web site, which includes the contact information (phone and e-mail) for the company:

http://www.centurymallet.com/

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Stuart
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Re: Deagan Glockenspiel [Re: James Walker]
      #37114 - Sun Dec 03 2006 08:29 AM (203.55.209.67)

Thanks for the replies guys.
I had every intention of Ebaying them. From what I could find on Ebay there was only one set previously sold and that didn't meet the reserve at about $500. That would more than recoup my outlay for everything, and the vintage cymbals that came with the deal would then be either a free bonus or an additional source of funds for greater purchases.
However, my wife heard them when I was doodling around with them. She is firmly convinced it is the sound of angels and heaven and wants me to keep them.
Given she was going to murder me for buying a bunch of old old junk/more drum stuff there may be a connection.
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Re: Deagan Glockenspiel [Re: L Lawless]
      #37171 - Fri Dec 08 2006 11:32 AM (4.245.164.108)

Quote:

Gilberto Selma in Chicago is the Deagan authority, he used to work for Deagan, then bought out the old parts and has had his own company restoring Deagans. I have heard he has retired and closed his business, though.




FWIW, I just got a reply e-mail from Gilberto, on an unrelated matter. No mention of his being retired, or of Century's doors being closed.

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Re: Deagan Glockenspiel [Re: James Walker]
      #37172 - Sat Dec 09 2006 01:02 AM (69.68.174.238)

Thanks for that update, James. I have a Deagan 4 octave Professional xylophone that I intend to get restored someday, and I know Gilberto would be the man.

I also would like to apologize for butchering his last name, posting in haste I'm terrible at remembering names, it is Gilberto Serna.

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Re: Deagan Glockenspiel [Re: L Lawless]
      #37200 - Sun Dec 10 2006 04:53 PM (203.55.209.67)

I had the Glockenspiel picked up on Saturday night (for restoration).
The guy doing it pointed out some interesting facts;
It was tuned to A454(?) rather than the standard A440 that Deagan popularised. This would limit its practical usefulness. I could get it retuned, but I thought I may as well leave it as is.

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