Alistair
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Reged: May 17 2006
Posts: 277
Loc: New Zealand
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I have seen those Hammerax cymbals - I am very curious to try one!
I bought the Sidewinder on recommendation of Roger, and as I was looking for a China at the time. So far, so good - no problems with it at all; a great buy!
I too gravitate towards Paiste now - but when I first went cymbal shopping, I was originally looking for Zildjians because of what I had heard about them (note I said 'about'). Once in the shop, I trialled most of the hi-hats in the store, slowly determining which my 'first place' was as I went. Then I compared the others to the 'first place' cymbals. After a couple of hours of that, I walked out with some Paiste Dark Energy hi-hats, and I can't say enough good things about them!
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Ratamatatt
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Reged: Jul 02 2003
Posts: 2035
Loc: Arrakis
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I don't weigh my cymbals, but, I do weigh my lids! Bahahahahahaha . . .
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Alistair
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Reged: May 17 2006
Posts: 277
Loc: New Zealand
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This post has been very 'eye-opening' for me - thanks, James. It makes sense that cymbal weight affects its sound, but it needed someone to make that point for me to get that 'penny-dropping' moment!
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Flam Master Flash
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Reged: Nov 17 2005
Posts: 323
Loc: France
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Well Roger, your right about selling my newborns so that I could buy some cymbals! Actually worked out pretty good because now I have more time to play.
Anyway, my way to justify their cost was by only buying them with the money I made from selling my old cymbals and dusty drum gear. Also, I bought them from places where I could return them ( which I did) if they didn't make the cut.
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Flam Master Flash
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Reged: Nov 17 2005
Posts: 323
Loc: France
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Another thing James, I've weighed my cymbals at the PO and then converted them with online metric conversion. I've done several trips to the PO just to weigh cymbals, but at least I didn't have to buy a digital drug scale.
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roger strange
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Reged: Dec 09 2003
Posts: 1049
Loc: Nova Scotia Canada
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Flam. That's what I do and this post reminds me I have to weigh my Sidewinder and send the weight to Steve Croteau, the maker. Seems he needs to know what my particular Baby weighs.
Here in Canada they have been metric for some time now so there is no problem with all that stuff. But getting back to the original theme of this post. I usually do weigh my cymbals, because then I know which ones to use for what show or style of Music. Back a few years ago I had to keep seven sets of cymbals and also ten snares in cases and bags along with God knows how many different types of heads because I was always being called by a number of different bands and shows as well as doing a pile of recording, especially for demo recordings for different artists. Now I am fined down to one recording project which is an on-going affair of ten years and one good band. So basically I keep a full set of cymbals with several alternates and only two snares, one of which I practically never use any more. I don't worry about the rides because they are basically both part of my personal sound. However I do mess around with different sizes and weights of crashes and splashes depending on the rooms or the recording we are working on that week.At least my drum space doesn't look like a drum rental warehouse anymore. It does look a bit like a head factory at times though. That is basically a whole "nother" thread though. I do recommend to anyone that they should know the weights of their cymbals though if for nothing more than knowing all they can about the gear they are playing. I might also add that if you tend to keep your cymbals clean all the time you should be aware of the fact that constant cymbal cleaner applications can actually, after a few years, cause your cymbals to become a little lighter.That of course can change their sound a bit. I tend to clean my cymbals only when I can actually hear them stray from the sound I expect from them and not how they look. My cymbals always look like they almost need a clean but still don't look too "scuzzy".
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Dave_Heim
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Reged: Jul 18 2008
Posts: 29
Loc: Chicago
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I selected the last category.
I've never cared how much they weigh. If I like the sound, the weight isn't going to change my feeling about that one way or the other.
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