777Drum
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In another thread Roger said you can't compare drummers as to how they would play in each others place. I think I know what he means, yet you can if the ability level is equal or close enough. With 6 months rehearsal I doubt Ringo would be remotely close to filling in for any fusion bands or bands such as Yes, Focus or Deep Purple. Now that doesn't mean that they would have played beatles music better and maybe in some ways they would not have done so. Who Knows?
I read an interesting thread once on a discussion about Buddy Rich comparing him to Dave Weckl. It got a bit heated due to strong opinions. I thought about it and realized that was trying to compare time periods and because they were so far apart, doesn't work. Rich, even when playing some of the funky BB charts, always sounded very different than how a more modern funky player would sound. The closest I can compare it to is a bit like Tony Williams yet much more rooted in a swing feel. Maybe it was hard to get away from that as that is what he came from. Lately I've been listening to BRs CD Ease on Down the Road. I find some of the more "modern at the time pieces" with electric piano and Wha Wha guitar at times a bit chumpy souning, yet with a charm that makes them very enjoyable to listen to. I've also come to love Rich's approach to the funkier rock beat stuff. He plays some incredible stuff with such a strong groove, yet it does not sound like a modern drummer's approach. Maybe that's why I like it.
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Foursticks
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Several years ago I watched a special on TV wherein Paul McCartney played, by request, early Beatles songs at The Cavern in Liverpool. His drummer for that occasion was none other than Deep Purple's Ian Paice. He, of course, had no problems playing any of the early Beatles tunes - She Loves You, I Want To Hold Your Hand, etc.
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awfulldrummer
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dream theatre "mike portnoy" does their beatle tribute thing or at least did!
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17drums
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Drumming, (like everything else), is kind of like a relay race. You take the baton from the guy before you and (hopefully) run even further with it. To continue the metaphors, without laying the foundation, you can't build a structure. The guys that came after, should probably have a much lesser problem of playing the previous guys' material, than the other way around--regardless of style or genre. It's easier for us to play material that someone else has already figured out for us. Musical evolution. Cobham could play Starr, but I doubt Starr could play Cobham. Buddy Rich probably sounded different from a modern funk player because he was figuring it out for himself, and not standing on the shoulders of other funk giants. (If that makes any sense).
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roger strange
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That makes perfect sense. explorers are just that. They are the ones that go out there, crash around the wilderness and then come back and tell people about it. Then there are the pioneers who carve out what has been discovered and settle it. Then there are thos who come after who expand it and profit by it but of course they don't have the vision in the first place to got find it and then settle it. AS you say, step by step generation after generation. Easy to copy but hard to create. Two totally different mentalities.
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