Tea Bag
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I've decided to take the plunge and get an earpiece.. as I find when singing and playing drums - if your stage mix is not right or if you can't hear yourself singing clearly;
- it can throw off your meter, because you are suddenly focusing on 'is my voice even in the right key? wth??'rather than playing and singing with confidence.It's an unecessary distraction.
- you can blow your voice out if you have to strain to try to hear your signal.
- your pitch and tone is much more accurate if you can hear yourself and its much easier to drum and sing and keep the meter from budging.
So..any recommendations for good, inexpensive IEM's?
I'm not sure how you hook them into the signal chain also.. do you run the mic into a small submixer andpull the iem out of that, with the mixer output going into tha main pa mixer..
- or do you plug the mic directly into the main pa mixer, and run a mix out of that into the iem? I don't think our practice pa has individual channel outputs.. probably just monitor outs and tape outs.. so it would be a full mix to the iems.
thanks!
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Frank
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The last band I was with tried, didn't like, then refused to wear "in ear" monitors. They went back to wedges.
I don't know why they did not like them ? I'm just throwing in all I can tell you for now. I'll try to find out more info.
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roger strange
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I've used in-ears on and off for quite a while but they are not budget ones. I use a full Bose in-ear system when I need it. The gear cost over two grand originally and I took the system in lieu of studio session costs. Most of the time I use my own wedge monitor and forego the in-ears these days. Probably because there are fewer gigs in my scope these days where I do any singing at all. I find they do have their drawbacks at times, especially if the sound crew are not that good. It's too easy for a sound man/gal to think the drummer is not hearing things right and jack the volume in the buds and there is no way you can move away from the too loud monitor sound because they are right in the ears. If you pull them out then you have nothing because the rest of the band is still all in-ear. At least with the system I do have, I carry my own module right at my side on a direct feed from the board and I can eq stuff pretty quickly from the stage. I would never trust a sound man/gal in a small venue to handle in ear stuff. At least with a wedge I can push it away and at an angle with my left foot in a second and take my stage monitor sound from the front monitors. Those things are nothing to fool with live. In the studio at least the engineer usually has some clues because he/she is constantly working with either in ears or headphones. I use the Bose system because I have a little tinitus in my right ear and I can eq the frequency that twigs that ear out.
Edited by roger strange (Tue Mar 02 2010 03:55 PM)
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Tea Bag
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Interesting.. maybe I'll hold off a bit. The problem I have is our confined practice space - the wegdges are about 10 feet away and the guitarists amp is behind me off to the right.. so if he happens to crank it up a bit I lose my signal. I'm not crazy about plugs in the ears.. maybe a better wedge placement would help..
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Frank
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Are you able to get another mix from the board for yourself? Maybe you could get your own wedge and raise it on a milk case? Them put in what you want. Just a suggestion. Lots cheaper. More stuff to haul though. 
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Frank
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Whoops , I just reread. You need a good mixing board to be able to put in or take away whatever you want.
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Tea Bag
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Yeah .. our sound guy's board supports that, but our practice PA is an old Yamaha 8 channel mixer. Does a good job but no bells and whistles. We use it sometimes for small gigs. I can run a speaker from one of the rec outs.. or another option is the guitar player has 2 other FOH speakers that also plug in to the board..so I'll give that a try.
Thanks!
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roger strange
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Run your monitors in line instead of Parallel.
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Tea Bag
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I had a look last night .. it supports 4 monitors and 2 FOH speakers. In our small practice space we are just using 2 monitors and 3 amps (2 guitars and bass). One of the guitarists keeps the other speakers at another location (don't ask me why - it's along story).
So by inline, do you mean the monitors are daisy-chained together rather than each coming out of a seperate output?
Thanks!
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Foursticks
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Yes, that's what inline means. If you have two monitor outputs on your monitor power amp, you should be able to daisy chain 2 of them out of one output and 2 out of the other output. That's the setup I use with my Carvin monitor amp and four Carvin 12-inch, 300 watt monitors.
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