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777Drum
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Re: Socialized medicine rocks! [Re: Ratamatatt]
      #46782 - Thu May 27 2010 11:55 PM (76.30.191.202)

You did nothing of the sort. You are a liar and just make things up. In a way, I feel sorry for you.

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roger strange
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Re: Socialized medicine rocks! [Re: Ratamatatt]
      #47013 - Sun Aug 15 2010 03:53 PM (173.212.92.82)

OK. Let's cut to the chase her. MRI waiting? All I know is that I needed one to figure out what was going on in my left shoulder from an injury un-related to drumming (automotive metal shops day gig in 2000). I got it on our health care system in 48 hours here in N.S. Canada (Keep in mind that the Provinces in Canada run the health systems in each Province and places like Alberta have tried to privatize their medical systems and basically they are the ones that have insane problems at times with wait periods and private costs).
Two days later I was under the knife getting a new supraspinitis tendon and it cost me zilch. The same un-related to drumming thing also took down my hands with trigger finger in all fingers in both hands. They had that sorted out in 6 months with surgery. My shoulders and hands work better than they ever have. Still cost me zilch. All I know is that I have always been looked after very quickly up here in Canada, and Tea Bag is right. I follow what's being said about our system in the States. Except for a very few isolated incidents, which can happen in any system anyway, all of what has been bandied around in the States about our system is either scare tactics, speculation or wishful thinking. We definitley don't have lotteries for patients here. That isn't even a Canadian way of thinking when it comes to health. We're actually spoiled up here as far as health care. Canadians thnk it is their God-Given right to have immediate attention over anything from a hang-nail to a bruised knee and they'll run for either the doctor or the out-patients at the hospital if they have a bad cold, let alone something serious. And our system here does its very level best to allow them to think that it is their God-Given right to have totally free health care (that also includes immigrants form the day they land here).
With me, not only did they spend (with the injuries I mention but others acquired through the same incident), about $500,000.00 putting me back together for specifically drumming, but they paid me what I would have lost in income while I was recuperating and also still pay at times for maintenance physio-therapy (which I really don't need almost ten years after it was all over), but it's their way of making sure that the work under my skin is still holding up. And I'm a musician for God's sake. Not even really classed as part of the mainstream work force.
I went out playing again as soon as I could even hold a stick in my hands, and they made sure that while I was healing I used Easton drum gloves, wrist braces, shoulder braces and Easton sticks, and paid for the whole lot on the health plan ticket. I also didn't pay a cent for any prescriptions I needed while recuperating. I'm back to un-braced shoulders, wrists and wood sticks of course now.
Also by the way since we are, here in N.S. fairly close to the U.S. border we get a steady flow of Americans every month coming here to buy their prescription drugs who own cottages around here. because they have established residence through the summer months our system pays for their prescriptions 100%. And while they are here, if something goes wrong our system pays for any medical of any kind.

Edited by roger strange (Sun Aug 15 2010 04:06 PM)


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Ratamatatt
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Re: Socialized medicine rocks! [Re: roger strange]
      #47051 - Sat Sep 25 2010 05:34 AM (66.176.194.227)

Let's see, Roger Strange, an actual Canadian, posts a real experience about how Canadian medicine works in the reality based World on August 15, 2010, and over 6 weeks later, 777Dumb, the Fox Noise parakete, seems to have eaten too many crackers to squawk. Hahahahahaha!

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Re: Socialized medicine rocks! [Re: Ratamatatt]
      #47059 - Sat Oct 02 2010 07:49 AM (70.51.246.53)

I'll echo what Roger was saying.. my 82 year old mother developed bad knees recently - so bad the right one was just rubbing bone against bone. Think 'pain' and hobbling around. In any case after looking at all of the options she decided the only real solution was a total knee replacement - a bionic knee. Once the decision was made she had the surgery done the next week! No waiting lines, no cost and by a very qualified, experienced specialist surgeon. The system does rock!

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777Drum
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Re: Socialized medicine rocks! [Re: Tea Bag]
      #47067 - Wed Oct 13 2010 08:49 AM (98.197.128.122)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2jijuj1ysw&NR=1&feature=fvwp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cahvnCBVXXU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-60jikyrB4

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Re: Socialized medicine rocks! [Re: 777Drum]
      #47094 - Thu Nov 11 2010 08:30 AM (98.203.69.11)

Quote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2jijuj1ysw&NR=1&feature=fvwp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cahvnCBVXXU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-60jikyrB4




The truth? 777Dumb can't handle the truth!


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Re: Socialized medicine rocks! [Re: Ratamatatt]
      #47100 - Tue Dec 07 2010 05:27 AM (99.192.30.237)

I, like Roger, live in Canada, and am healthy thanks to a health care system that does not discriminate due to financial strength.

Period.

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roger strange
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Re: Socialized medicine rocks! [Re: DrumsUp]
      #47713 - Sun Feb 26 2012 04:13 PM (24.222.163.82)

You're going to love my latest brush with our Nova Scotian Canadain health system. I went down seriously with walking pneumonia back five weeks ago. Passed out on the floor, the works. My wife got me into her car, hauled me down to a walk in clinic in the South end of Halifax where within 15 minutes they had nailed down the problem, prescribed me an antibiotic which cost me 18 bucks which in two weeks killed the bug and got me on my feet and drumming again. On top of which they spotted a nasty little rash type thing on my back over my left shoulder blade, made me an appointment with my own G.P. immediately at his clinic which I went to pronto. When I got there I was seen within 15 minutes by not only my G.P. but also two cancer specialists, a heart specialist and a dietician. They grilled me through both prostate and colon cancer tests, gave my back rash a clean bill of health after tests and sent me home to recouperate from the whole thing after taking six phails of blood for tests. Cost me nothing, and the reports came back healthy "but needed to build back up the strength for drumming" within 24 hours. That's how our system works here boys and girls. I'm 72 this year and thanks to our system I am good to go and do what I do best. No long waits, all the right specialists were on me like spiders on a fly and I have four call backs to check me over in the next two months. Here they prize their performing artists and what they do. They are on us so fast that you don't even have time to turn around. Not only that, they treat you like a Human Being not some body to be processed. They all knew my name, called me by my first name, shook my hand and asked me how my wife was by name. They also know I teach kids and while they were running all over me they were asking how my kids were doing in drumming with me. They also checked the old surgeries from a few years ago with x-rays and scans and all the doctors and also the two nurses who saw me dropped by as I was leaving to go home and asked me to never be a stranger again at the clinic.
Give me a break, our system here in Nova Scotia works really well, it's worth every penny of the tax base it uses and there are more healthy people walking around here who would be on the scrap heap without it than you can shake a stick at. If we didn't have our system in place I would have paid close to $3,000.00 just for all the work they did on me last week. I paid exactly $18.00 for my meds and that was that.
Those that roll through to the States to get work done are either going for a certain procedure or have piles of money and in the end our system will in most cases transfer the money to U.S. private procedure clinics etc anyway. Hut for the normal Canadian the system more than fills any gaps and does a pretty thorough job. As Drums up syas it does not discriminate as far as social staus is concerned and as I said, there are many average Canadians living productive lives and conributing to the tax base because of our Health system across the country which does vary from Province to Province because as is mentioned above, each Province runs its own health system as it best suits the economic climate of the Province. And as is also mentioned above, in most cases those south of our border really have not the faintest idea of how Canada really runs anyway. They read a few biased reports and editorials about our system and run with those opinions. The fact is, no matter what the politics, our system is based on equal treatment for all Canadians across the board. It has been that way since the early 6ty0s and in some Provinces before that. We have had plenty of time to fine tune the Public Health system and also we do not have middle-man/woman hands in the form of politicians dipping their hands into the Public health system till. It's set up right!

Edited by roger strange (Sun Feb 26 2012 04:27 PM)


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