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wiremesh
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Sightreading books and getting a band together
      #6269 - Sun Jan 08 2006 05:28 AM (202.156.6.92)

Hi guys i've been a self taught drummer for bout 6 years now playing mainly funk rock blues and pop. Quite awhile back i realised the power in reading but not really doing anything bout it till now, and i am currently looking for a book in sightreading. A book that has a Clear detailed explanations of drum scores from Beginners to Professional alike,. Any books you guys can recommend? Also i started a band bout 2 yrs back and currently have a bassist only, so far the guitarists that i've been lookin amongst our age groups or a lil younger that i know of only play Punkrock.. and its not what i'm looking for. Singapore is a very hard place to make it in music, any tips on that too? I've currently done 2 recordings. How do i get my name or band's name up there once we have composed our songs, how do we promote our songs.? thanks guys! Sorry to trouble y'all..
I do know of professionals in the music scene in Singapore but most of them don't really offer any tips at all. How do i get my band in place, Get a producer who is willing to produce us and finally playing our songs and touring...


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Re: Sightreading books and getting a band together
      #6270 - Sun Jan 08 2006 08:27 AM (69.223.71.69)

hey man i would say that if you made a profile on myspace you could not only put you music on a page but promote it to everyone who has a profile..... and plus you can look at other peoples styles with people who live around you area.....

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jesuslovesyou
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Re: Sightreading books and getting a band together
      #6271 - Sun Jan 08 2006 10:02 AM (210.18.130.249)

I see that was your first post evileyejester. Welcome to the forum and feel FREE to ask anything that your heart desires about drums.

Enjoy,


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wiremesh
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Re: Sightreading books and getting a band together
      #6272 - Sun Jan 08 2006 07:08 PM (202.156.6.92)

hey there.. u mean aprofile on ur space? as in ur webby? hhmm i've yet to record the songs yet.. but already have it down in chords and vocals n melody just the recording.. part...
anyway.. welcome to the forum bro!


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Ratamatatt
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Re: Sightreading books and getting a band together
      #6273 - Sun Jan 08 2006 08:10 PM (68.235.146.135)

I don't know what you mean by "drum scores." A score is the conductors music that has all of the parts of an orchestra or band in it.

What do you want to be able to sight read? Most drum reading method books deal with reading snare drum etudes (solos). If you are talking about reading drum charts that's different than reading and playing a snare drum part verbatim.

If you don't read rhythm at all, your best bet is to take some reading lessons from someone who teaches from "Modern Reading Text in 4/4." That's the standard for learning to read rhythm.

If you can read rhythm, and want to learn how to read "drum charts" there's a great do-it-yourself method book called "Chart Reading Workbook for Drummers" by Bobby Gabriele. That's, by far, the best drum chart reading method book out there.


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wiremesh
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Re: Sightreading books and getting a band together
      #6274 - Mon Jan 09 2006 08:06 PM (202.156.6.92)

sorry.. i meant like sight reading for drummers...u know when u play in a pub or anything u gotta read music... those eh stuff u noe...

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Stuart
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Re: Sightreading books and getting a band together
      #6275 - Tue Jan 10 2006 01:36 AM (144.136.98.236)

Tiger's got a heap of stuff on this site on how to read.. no better and cheaper place to start.
I second "Modern Reading Text" as the best place to start.
You don't gotta read to play in a pub.. as a matter of fact most of the pubs I've ever been in it would look kind of weird reading unless you were the backing band for singers etc coming through)
Singapore would be a real hard place to get a band going.. I can't remember too many places that had live music (other than Filipina gals doing Kareoke)


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Re: Sightreading books and getting a band together
      #6276 - Tue Jan 10 2006 05:12 AM (64.136.49.225)

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Ratamatatt
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Re: Sightreading books and getting a band together
      #6277 - Tue Jan 10 2006 10:21 AM (70.156.244.159)

quote:
Originally posted by wiremesh:
sorry.. i meant like sight reading for drummers...u know when u play in a pub or anything u gotta read music... those eh stuff u noe...

Site reading means reading and playing something that you've never seen before - playing it from sight without prior rehearsal. Reading rhythm for a drummer comes up in several ways: playing with a symphonic band or orchestra, playing in a show band (ie: Broadway), playing in a big band ie: Count Basie, playing marching or drumline music.

As for playing in a pub, it's rare for there to be anything for the drummer to read from. Pub drummers generally play from memory and improvise by ear. Isn't most music in 32 measure AABA song form. You know that each verse is 8 bars and that you are probably going to do a fill at the end of each verse and crash on 1 in the beginning of the next verse. There's really not much more to it for most pop music.

If the band is playing standards from one of the "fake books" and you feel you need a chart to follow, you can just follow the same sheet the rest of the band is playing (and improvising) from, and learn, through experience, the appropriate way to handle the rhythms written for the soloists.

If it's a complicated piece of music with lots of tempo/rhythm changes in it, and the composer thinks the drummer will need a chart to follow, he should write one for the drummer. If you feel you need something to follow because the piece is too difficult to memorize, or you don't have time to memorize it, you could learn to make up your own drum charts. A drum chart is generally on one page and only has the essential things that you have to play, other than just keeping the beat. It should also have any time, rhythm, tempo changes you have to be ready for.

In addition to the 2 books I mentioned above, you might want to check out a book called "The Ultimate Drumset Chart Reading Anthology" by Steve Houghton. It has about 30 different charts of all different kinds (with a play-along CD) that drumset drummers are likely to encounter on different kinds of gigs, and which professionals should be prepared to be able to use in all variety of gigging situations. Here's an MD review of the book: http://www.houghtonmusic.com/books/anthology.html#MDreview


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tainteddrummer
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Re: Sightreading books and getting a band together
      #6278 - Tue Jan 10 2006 10:28 AM (70.44.40.28)

quote:
Originally posted by wiremesh:
hey there.. u mean aprofile on ur space? as in ur webby? hhmm i've yet to record the songs yet.. but already have it down in chords and vocals n melody just the recording.. part...
anyway.. welcome to the forum bro!

myspace is a site for everyone to put their own stuff up ..

www.myspace.com

make a band site so u can post your music


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